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		<title>By: Kamran Khan</title>
		<link>http://learnloadrunner.com/introduction/difference-concurrent-vs-simultaneous-vuser/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamran Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jacintha 
Introducing lr_rendesvous create concurrency at that point - the immediate next function will be executed at single point in time (causing maximum pressure/load on DB/app/web servers. web_concurrent_start statement can be used for concurrent execution of a series of steps as Manish quoted. 

@Lina
First, change in controller to simulate 500 users doesnt mean 500 concurrent users.These are 500 simultaneous users (and could be 2 or 2 overlapping/concurrent users by chance) 
User and VUser is same. Controller decides the number of VUsers to simulate and not script. If you mention 10 users_name in script and run controller with 100 (assuming multiple instances are possible) then you&#039;re testing application with 100 Users. 

Second, having multiple iterations for various actions doesnt mean additional users. 100 VUsers and 1000000 iterations each - will simulate a load of 100 vusers only.

Third, if you use random/once for pramaterization then provide unique data for order number/name (whatever is required to be unique) - if it is coming from server as response, you need to correlate your script. 

I hope that addresses your issues - although pretty late. 


Sincerely, 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jacintha<br />
Introducing lr_rendesvous create concurrency at that point &#8211; the immediate next function will be executed at single point in time (causing maximum pressure/load on DB/app/web servers. web_concurrent_start statement can be used for concurrent execution of a series of steps as Manish quoted. </p>
<p>@Lina<br />
First, change in controller to simulate 500 users doesnt mean 500 concurrent users.These are 500 simultaneous users (and could be 2 or 2 overlapping/concurrent users by chance)<br />
User and VUser is same. Controller decides the number of VUsers to simulate and not script. If you mention 10 users_name in script and run controller with 100 (assuming multiple instances are possible) then you&#8217;re testing application with 100 Users. </p>
<p>Second, having multiple iterations for various actions doesnt mean additional users. 100 VUsers and 1000000 iterations each &#8211; will simulate a load of 100 vusers only.</p>
<p>Third, if you use random/once for pramaterization then provide unique data for order number/name (whatever is required to be unique) &#8211; if it is coming from server as response, you need to correlate your script. </p>
<p>I hope that addresses your issues &#8211; although pretty late. </p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
<a href="http://www.Kamran-Khan.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.Kamran-Khan.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Manish</title>
		<link>http://learnloadrunner.com/introduction/difference-concurrent-vs-simultaneous-vuser/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Manish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The explanation you have give in vice versa. For ex: in load runner script, we have two function i.e. web_concurrent_start(NULL) and web_concurrent_end(NULL). These functions perform concurrency. Its like a rendezvous point when all the URLs get loaded concurrently while in rendezvous point all vusers loaded concurrently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The explanation you have give in vice versa. For ex: in load runner script, we have two function i.e. web_concurrent_start(NULL) and web_concurrent_end(NULL). These functions perform concurrency. Its like a rendezvous point when all the URLs get loaded concurrently while in rendezvous point all vusers loaded concurrently.</p>
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		<title>By: lina</title>
		<link>http://learnloadrunner.com/introduction/difference-concurrent-vs-simultaneous-vuser/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>lina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you that was so clear , however i have another problem in understanding concurent users , if i have a script with 100 vuser on yahoo 1) Login, 2) Check no of unread mails 3) Logout 
and they iterate for taks no 2) twice   and in the controller  i edit to 500 Vuser to run conncurrently ? please confirm if  the below is true :
1- 500 concurrent user will run 
2- each with 100 vuser and it will iterate for task no 2) ( all will run as vuser squence at the script)
my question is:
If i use Pramaterization for vuser random/once/...etc  the possibilty of use to run with multisessions that may cause conflict at DB side (if Vusers are submitting order for example)
how can i prevent that??

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you that was so clear , however i have another problem in understanding concurent users , if i have a script with 100 vuser on yahoo 1) Login, 2) Check no of unread mails 3) Logout<br />
and they iterate for taks no 2) twice   and in the controller  i edit to 500 Vuser to run conncurrently ? please confirm if  the below is true :<br />
1- 500 concurrent user will run<br />
2- each with 100 vuser and it will iterate for task no 2) ( all will run as vuser squence at the script)<br />
my question is:<br />
If i use Pramaterization for vuser random/once/&#8230;etc  the possibilty of use to run with multisessions that may cause conflict at DB side (if Vusers are submitting order for example)<br />
how can i prevent that??</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ankur</title>
		<link>http://learnloadrunner.com/introduction/difference-concurrent-vs-simultaneous-vuser/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Ankur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I made it as a seperate post. There is a lot of confusion regarding these terms. 

You may want to check the ongoing discussion at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1233657445010+28353475&amp;threadId=1254060&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HP LoadRunner forums.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I made it as a seperate post. There is a lot of confusion regarding these terms. </p>
<p>You may want to check the ongoing discussion at the <a href="http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1233657445010+28353475&#038;threadId=1254060" rel="nofollow">HP LoadRunner forums.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacintha</title>
		<link>http://learnloadrunner.com/introduction/difference-concurrent-vs-simultaneous-vuser/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacintha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you please revisit your statement. I guess the explanation given here is vice versa.Because normally the Simulataneous Users are always greater than concurrent users. when we take a banking application, simultaneous users would be 50000 users whereas concurrent users would be 5000 only.
Please correct me if i am wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you please revisit your statement. I guess the explanation given here is vice versa.Because normally the Simulataneous Users are always greater than concurrent users. when we take a banking application, simultaneous users would be 50000 users whereas concurrent users would be 5000 only.<br />
Please correct me if i am wrong.</p>
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